Crit cap change?

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Casagrande

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Anetheron

Tauren
Druid

I heard that you can now eliminate the last 4.8% of hits (boss level crit suppression) by increasing your chance to crit. If this is the case, it effectively raises the crit cap by 4.8%. Have you guys heard anything about this, or seen any proof?

Tehm whos bare durids, can B 4 tank

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Taryssa

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Anetheron

Blood Elf
Hunter

However, what was recently discovered, tested, and confirmed (see posts 49 onwards) is that, in effect, this theory was never correct to start with. The “roughly” 5% of forced hits weren’t really hits at all, and were never coming from crit conversion or any other such mechanic. Rather, their origin was much simpler. In order to get to the crit cap without raid buffs for testing purposes, we were always attacking from in front of the target dummy so as to get parries. What we forgot is that doing so also means we get blocks. And it so happens that Recount reports attacks that are partially blocked as hits in it’s summary. I’ve heard this referred to as a “bug” in recount, which is probably overstating the case; while I think it would be a little clearer if it reported them as blocks instead, I don’t think the current behavior is unreasonable. Regardless: based on this functionality, we looked at our parses and saw “about” 5% hits and concluded that it was some crit conversion thing… when in reality, those were just blocks taking up extra space on the hit table. And if one repeats this test from behind, negating both blocks and parries, one can pretty easily accumulate as many swings as you might want to where every single swing is a crit, glance, dodge, or miss. That is, hit can be totally pushed off the hit table, and the whole “crit conversion” thing is basically nonsense.


Sounds like an observation faux-pas

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Casagrande

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Anetheron

Tauren
Druid

So the crit cap is still 100 - glancing - miss - dodge, our actual crit chance is just higher than previously thought. Which explains why crit chances on white swings in raid conditions are often significantly higher than expected.

Tehm whos bare durids, can B 4 tank

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Taryssa

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Anetheron

Blood Elf
Hunter

Yup

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phidz

Hello :). I am new to RA forums. Im a rogue on Anetheron, and had a Q about this. When you say the crit cap is 100, does it mean your actual crit rating?

Casagrande - 07 February 2010 12:53 PM

So the crit cap is still 100 - glancing - miss - dodge, our actual crit chance is just higher than previously thought. Which explains why crit chances on white swings in raid conditions are often significantly higher than expected.

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Casagrande

<Riot Act>
Anetheron

Tauren
Druid

Crit chance, in percent.

Tehm whos bare durids, can B 4 tank

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phidz

Ah ok, thanks

   
 

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