AoE sprint is kind of cool, mushrooms might be fun, the aoe bleed seems useless although I guess swipe will be affected by rend and tear, so thats a little more threat. Druids healing in caster form I think is nice. Will be good for 5man plow to 85, so will aoe sprint.

But overall? Pretty boring.

I am a little surprised at the reaction to losing ToL. I kind of understand where they are coming from in making it a buff - as in, when in caster form they will heal on par to other classes, then they hit ToL when things go bad and increase their healing for a short duration.

I’m curious as to Tray’s reaction to this :)

Im just excited to be able to use deviates in raids now.

The only valid complaint about losing ToL except as a cooldown is removing snares… resto now needs to shift to bear or cat, which costs them around 1k mana(?).

A lot of people are complaining about the pvp aspect of it… I don’t really care about pvp but their point is now they don’t have immunity from mages anymore.

Generally though, they are taking away something we’ve had for a while now, and regifting it to us with a cooldown. It doesn’t exactly come off well. I read another druid saying maybe they should keep ToL but make this cooldown something else, like… our branches suddenly fill up with leaves and do…whatever it is they want this cooldown to actually accomplish.

The same reason I don’t want a cool-down tol is the same reason I don’t want at a trinket with a On-Use effect for more healing, and in general procs that give us more healing (like the ashen verdict ring) don’t appeal to me either. Even when I’m on my pally i never remember to use wings for intense healing… I dunno. Making healers “heal better” on a cooldown is retarded, leave that for the dps.

If ToL however did something healer related, like say… in ToL form all my heals also applied shields, or all my hots lasted x2 as long etc then I’d say… yea thats a pretty nifty cooldown. It’s different. I would welcome that change. But at this point I doubt they would give us something like that. But we’ll see when they actually announce more, or when beta invites are sent out what they are thinking for us.

until then, meh. no new shiny toys for me.

I’m not sure what the pvp complaint is really, you can shift to travel form instead of tree, with basically the same effect… Use one GCD to enter the form and cancel it immediately, or use one GCD to enter the form and stay in it for a bit.

The bonuses from ToL are going to be applied out of tree form, so this can only be a buff aside from the shifting to break roots/poly issue.

I agree that healer CDs are not particularly useful, with the exception of paladins; popping things with plea is nice. Druids have no equivalent so it would have to provide some bonus other than just more +healing as you mentioned.

What a good reason to keep playing.  We’ll finally be able to slaughter all those cocky annoying resto duids.  MURDER MURDER MURDER MURDER.

Okay, I’m better now.

Yes, now they need to actively break your polymorph instead of just being outright immune!

badger badger badger badger

MUSHROOM MUSHROOM

AHH SNAKE A SNAKE! SNAKE! SNAKE! OOHHH ITS A SNAKE!

Obviously things like Rebirth can’t just be handed to out to more classes unless we did something like a second exhaustion mechanic for battle rez or whatever. For now we’re going to try the cooldown at 30 min again. In Icecrown’s world of limited attempts, a 30 min cooldown likely meant you just cooled your heels until the cooldown was available again. In Cataclysm the hope is sometimes you’ll have the benefit available but not every time, which scales back on how much of a game-changer it is.

Yeah, kind of opposite to what their original plan was, which was to allow these things to be used once per fight.

Maybe they need to implement a system like arenas, where you say “Okay, we’re going to start this boss encounter” and all CDs are reset.

Maybe we’ll just have 30 minute boss fights.

ugh

The PVP complaints are probably because you can’t be sapped in tree form at the start of an arena match (since as a tree you’re not a humanoid), obviating the need to get in combat immediately against a rogue.